Lot 2309

Winchester 1892 Saddle Ring Carbine 20" Octagon "Movie Gun" .44 WCF Lever Action Rifle 1929 C&R

Estimate: $2,000 - $4,000

Bid Increments

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$0 $10
$100 $25
$500 $50
$1,000 $100
$2,000 $200
$5,000 $500
$10,000 $1,000
$25,000 $2,500
$50,000 $5,000

Make: Winchester Repeating Arms

 

 

Model: 1892 Saddle Ring Carbine

 

 

Serial Number: 988479

 

 

Year of Manufacture: 1929 / C&R

 

 

Caliber: .44 W.C.F.

 

 

Action Type: Lever Action, Full length Tubular Magazine Fed

 

 

Barrel Length: 20", Octagon. The barrel is marked with an oval P mark which is consistent with other "Movie Guns" recorded.

 

 

Sights / Optics: The front sight is a blade dovetailed to the barrel. The rear sight is a u-notch Marble’s pattern elevator sight dovetailed to the barrel. The tang is drilled, tapped, and filled for a tang sight (none present).

 

 

Stock Configuration & Condition: The stocks are2-piece smooth wood with banded forend, straight grip, straight comb, saddle ring and steel carbine-style buttplate. There is minor scattered finish loss and a few handling marks. There are no chips or cracks. The LOP measures 12 7/8" from the front of the trigger to the back of the buttplate. The plate has turned a mottled patina. Overall, the stocks are in about Very Good condition.

 

 

Type of Finish: Blue

 

 

Finish Originality: Original

 

 

Bore Condition: The bore is bright and the rifling is sharp. There is no erosion in the bore. In this writer's opinion the bore rates 10/10.

 

 

Overall Condition: This rifle retains about 70% of its metal finish. Most of the receiver has worn to white and taken to a generally even patina. There is intermittent oxidation. There is saddle ring wear on the receiver. There are a few minor dings and nicks. The action shows operational wear. The screw heads range from sharp to tool marked with strong slots. The markings are clear. Overall, this rifle is in Very Good condition.

 

 

Mechanics: The action functions correctly. The hammer has a half-cock safety position. The trigger is crisp. We did not fire this rifle. As with all used firearms, a thorough cleaning may be necessary to meet your maintenance standards.

 

 

Box, Paperwork & Accessories: None.

 

 

Our Assessment: Winchester’s Model 1892 is one of John M. Browning’s most successful compact lever-action designs, created to deliver the handling and strength of a big-frame Winchester in a lighter, faster package for traditional pistol cartridges. This 1929 Saddle Ring Carbine sits in the late production window where a small, intriguing run of 20 inch octagon barrel saddle ring carbines appears, long nicknamed “Movie Guns” by collectors. The Winchester Collectors Association article makes a persuasive case that the nickname may be misleading, and that “Wild West Show Guns” is likely the more accurate description based on the limited surviving evidence and documented associations outside of actual film set use.

 

 

The appeal is easy to understand the moment you see the configuration. An octagon barrel on a saddle ring carbine gives the rifle extra visual weight and a distinctly early profile, while the banded forend, carbine furniture, and saddle ring keep it grounded in the working-carbine tradition. Research noted in the same WACA piece indicates these carbines were likely assembled as parts clean-up guns during Winchester’s financially difficult interwar years, with no remaining factory records in this serial range to pin down an exact order quantity. A particularly telling physical clue is barrel architecture, as inspection examples show 20 inch short rifle barrels were used in assembling these carbines, evidenced by the forend cap tenon dovetail location matching a short-rifle forend layout rather than a standard carbine arrangement.

 

 

Chambered in .44 W.C.F. (44-40), this rifle is paired with one of the most historically important American cartridges, a classic Winchester chambering that helped define the pistol-caliber lever gun era and remained deeply associated with frontier and exhibition shooting long after its introduction. This example presents with a bright, sharp bore that rates 10/10, correct functional description of the action and safeties as noted, and a exterior that still carries strong curb appeal with clear markings and a solid overall profile. The tang being drilled, tapped, and filled for a tang sight fits the period’s practical sighting culture, and the Marble’s-pattern rear sight complements the carbine’s traditional sight picture. In total, it reads as a visually distinctive late-production Model 1892 in the specific configuration collectors chase for its story, its silhouette, and its place in the overlap between Winchester’s late classic era and America’s staged Wild West memory.

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